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Posted: 11:33, Saturday 27 January 2007 by Megan Jones
Updated: 23:15, Sunday 28 January 2007 by Megan Jones
Many thanks to Mike Lim who took some time to pen the following…I wonder whether any of the women who took part in the Leading Ladies workshop held some 18 months ago have any thoughts to add…?

There seems to be a constant problem at tango events – not enough men! The earlier posting on el cabaceo became partly a discussion about negotiating the imbalance between the sexes at milongas. Classes are sometimes in danger of not running and willing women are excluded because there aren’t enough men. And it’s quite evident in practicas, where most of those waiting to dance are women. I’m not sure what we can do about the source of the imbalance; that is, the general reluctance of Australian men to dance. But I’d like to suggest a possible solution. What if we simply set aside the expected roles of men leading and women following?

What if we stopped being fixated about ‘men’ and ‘women’ and instead recognised dance partners as ‘leaders’ or’followers’? Imagine four people wanting to dance: one man and three women. At the moment what usually happens is the man dances with one woman while the other two wait their turn. But if the remaining women were able to lead, they could dance with each other and swap roles as well. Then neither loses out on following; in fact this increases the overall opportunities to dance the follow. A few women at Siempre Tango have already taken on the lead, but I suspect they may still not be able to dance the follow as much as they’d like because despite their efforts there are still not enough other leads around. What I’d like to suggest is us accepting flexible roles which would mean (because this is point) more time on the dance floor. This idea is not radical; think about the origins of tango, where a standard part of the scene was men dancing with each other for the lack of women. I’m not suggesting we pretend we’re in a nineteenth-century Buenos Aires bordello. The cultural convention of one sex taking on only one role is just that: a convention. Conventions arise from particular historical and social situations, which means they can change when the context does.

I know we can’t all swap roles as easily as the music changes, so I think this needs a more deliberate effort. Maybe instead of turning away unaccompanied women for a beginner’s class, some of the more experienced women could come in to learn the lead too. Maybe for the next round of classes, instead of being worried about the lack of men, there could be a special block on ‘Leading for women’. (I’d sign up for ‘Following for men’!)

I only know how to lead and am sometimes conscious of how much I’m limited by my skills and knowledge, especially when I see female friends dancing with more experienced partners and being taken some place beyond what they’re used to. I’d love to be able to have that experience, and in an environment where dancers could lead or follow, it would be possible.
Written by Mike Lim.
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At 13:01 on Monday, 29 January 2007 wendy said:
Hi Mike,
Great article about leading and following and being a bit more flexible regarding the gender balance. I totally agree. However, as much as I would like to be proficient in following and leading, at the moment learning to follow is keeping my head and feet pretty busy!!
By the way, you were looking very proficient on the dance floor at the Rotunda on Saturday!
Cheers, Wendy
At 22:09 on Monday, 29 January 2007 Janett Jackson said:
Your suggestions have great merit.
Traditionally men learnt tango, at a young age, by following. Once they could follow well they became ‘leaders’. A great system for understanding the dance (rhythm and steps). More experienced tango women also ‘led’.
We’ve had one tango workshop for women to experience leading and following. Maybe we could have some more workshops for learning leading and following outside our comfort zone.
regards Janett
At 11:13 on Tuesday, 30 January 2007 Ana said:
Hi Mike, great article. I agree with what you are saying.
I must admit that as much as I love following (and I am not going to change my mind about that), the reality is we do not have enough men. So, why not learn how to lead? And men to follow. I think this could be fun, here is our chance to stand out in the world and… make millions :).
At 11:38 on Tuesday, 30 January 2007 Ana said:
Just would like to add that I am for everybody to lead and follow, regardless of gender but one must bear in mind that women were not built like men…
At 21:53 on Tuesday, 30 January 2007 Ben said:
Woah! A bevvy of comments… :)
There’s something very cool about to happen with the Adelaide tango scene… perhaps it will go some way towards letting women dance a bit more… Announcement on that very soon.
We should all learn both sides… why does this whole working thing get in the way of our hobbies?
At 19:23 on Sunday, 4 February 2007 charles said:
Depends on how you see work: If it’s sapping all your joy and energy then it’s probably time to change…
At 11:52 on Monday, 5 February 2007 Judy said:
When I go to a milonga, I go because I want to dance tango. So, when I walk into a milonga as a single woman and see twice as many women as men, my heart sinks, because I have learnt that I might be waiting an hour between dances. So I now consider leaving. It is different if you go with a partner – you can at least expect some dances from your partner, but this doesn’t happen if you are a single woman. If learning to lead would allow me to dance more tango at a milonga, I would be willing to learn!
At 13:35 on Monday, 5 February 2007 Mark Stojani said:
I think I’ve changed my mind on this. It seems to me women are saying they would prefer to lead than not dance at all. My mother who has just turned seventy attends an Italian social luncheon once a month for retiries and pensioners and being a widow has no option but to lead if she wants to dance (which apparently she is good at). Men there just wouldn’t have the courage to ask someone other than their wives to dance. Their wives would have their …. on toast. We are lucky that it is acceptable in our tango community to dance with other people apart from partners. Even so I am very aware some women on occasions spend little time on the dance floor. I’m sure people enjoy other facets of attending a Milonga like socialising, listening to the music, getting away from the kids/husband/wife/mother etc but in most cases the primary reason is to dance tango. Therefore anything that gets more people dancing if that means more women leading can only be good.
At 14:17 on Monday, 5 February 2007 Ben said:
You just can’t see it can you Mark! They’re trying to make us redundant. Ban women leading!
:)
At 14:24 on Monday, 5 February 2007 Ana said:
Well said Mark. :)Ben, it’s going to be OK!(you will get addicted to following), hahaha…
At 23:16 on Wednesday, 7 February 2007 Andrew said:
I can personally attest to Ben’s and Mark’s skill at following after having an opportunity to lead them through a few moves at separate opportunities already. While certainly being a different experience I can definitely see that everyone is capable of whatever they set their mind to. Men following or women leading… is it mainly just a matter of trying to put aside the lessons you have learned already or using those lessons as a basis for further development and understanding of your partners challenges?
I have tried following myself, but still can’t get much further than listening to the music too much and letting that dictate my movements rather than the leader (of course the music should dictate the follower’s rhythm… but I haven’t progressed to that stage yet).